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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Sat May 15, 2010 11:36 am

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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Sat May 15, 2010 7:06 pm

yeah. he always seemed to want power but thought he was too weak. but he was Light when he found his affinity. now Nicole is going to be a lot stronger because she won't reject the Change. did all the other fledglings die or just five.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Sat May 15, 2010 11:11 pm

Just five. The rest escaped.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Sun May 16, 2010 2:11 pm

i wonder who they are. and what they're going to do now.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Mon May 17, 2010 5:17 am

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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Mon May 17, 2010 4:52 pm

yeah and i think that's because nicole has such an influence on the others. especially with her ability.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Tue May 18, 2010 12:41 am

Well she's only telling people the "Truth" , which is insanely objective, besides Nicole is only going to tell them what she wants them to know
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Tue May 18, 2010 12:45 am

i think it had a lot to do with the darkness hanging over Dallas more then anything. however i'm hoping in the next book they will tell us what was wrong with him.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Tue May 18, 2010 1:22 am

Yeah, i would really like to see stuff from his POV
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Tue May 18, 2010 7:39 pm

we didn't see much of his POV but he did become a much more important character. maybe with him going all Dark they'll put more of his POV. or even more points from the dark fledglings.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Wed May 19, 2010 12:02 am

I think that would be a really good idea, i mean i want to know why they are even following Neferet to begin with.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Wed May 19, 2010 12:47 am

ok so i think that it was not entirely Dallas;s fault for going ballistic down in the tunnels because of the Darkness and his whole fear of Rephaim and everything but he was just over irritating, my friend hated him when she read the book, probly because she wanted him to get out of the way of Rephaim and Steveie Rae but whatever anyways i don;t think it was his fault is all im saying and i kind of feel bad for him although i do wish hed fall if the edge of the earth (if there was an edge)
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Wed May 19, 2010 10:40 am

Well see the issue gets a little stranger when we realise it's probably been a few months (at max) that Stevie Rae and Dallas have been together, thanks to the screwy timeline. Dallas probably didn't know Stevie Rae that well. I gotta be honest, Rephaim probably knew her better then Dallas did.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Thu May 20, 2010 5:49 pm

i agree with you bella-rose. we didn't know much of dallas in tempted and he was more introduced in burned. on top of that rephaim has the imprint with stevie rae. and stevie rae seemed a little more open to him in the first place. she really didn't keep many secrets from him did she? not compared to everyone else at least.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Fri May 21, 2010 5:52 am

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i agree with you bella-rose. we didn't know much of dallas in tempted and he was more introduced in burned. on top of that rephaim has the imprint with stevie rae. and stevie rae seemed a little more open to him in the first place. she really didn't keep many secrets from him did she? not compared to everyone else at least.

That's one of the things i like best about Stevie Rae and Rephaim's relationship, their pretty honest with each other, and it's sometimes the case that the only one they can be honest with is each other. As soon as Dallas said that Stevie Rae could tell him the truth, i was waiting to see if she would spill the beans completely to him.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Sat May 22, 2010 4:43 pm

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i agree with you bella-rose. we didn't know much of dallas in tempted and he was more introduced in burned. on top of that rephaim has the imprint with stevie rae. and stevie rae seemed a little more open to him in the first place. she really didn't keep many secrets from him did she? not compared to everyone else at least.

That's one of the things i like best about Stevie Rae and Rephaim's relationship, their pretty honest with each other, and it's sometimes the case that the only one they can be honest with is each other. As soon as Dallas said that Stevie Rae could tell him the truth, i was waiting to see if she would spill the beans completely to him.

i was actually afraid that she would tell him because he's all jealous of everything. i was really hoping that she would tell someone who she can trust a little more. i love how rephaim and stevie rae are honest because really it seems that's the only people they can be honest to. there's really no point in keeping secrets from each other.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Sun May 23, 2010 6:38 am

Yeah, but she could've kept things from Rephaim. He's the favourite son of her enemy, what was stopping Rephaim from telling Kalona everything once Kalona came back for him? But Stevie Rae never thought like that. She didn't think she could trust him completely, but she trusted him more then most.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Sun May 23, 2010 12:23 pm

true. but rephaim keeps changing with time and how much time he spends with stevie rae. and he totally cares about her now. and with the imprint i think it's going to be a little harder for him to betray her. when they get to the point of the vision it's going to be interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Mon May 24, 2010 7:31 pm

I think there is some white bull with it, perhaps to prevent Rephaim to choose a light or something lol
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Tue May 25, 2010 2:28 pm

well he does have that Darkness in him.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Sun May 30, 2010 3:51 am

But Darkness said that he didn't know Rephaim. So i don't think Rephaim's ever really given into Darkness before, otherwise the Bull would have known him.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:57 pm

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yeah. he always seemed to want power but thought he was too weak. but he was Light when he found his affinity. now Nicole is going to be a lot stronger because she won't reject the Change. did all the other fledglings die or just five.

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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:38 pm

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yeah. he always seemed to want power but thought he was too weak. but he was Light when he found his affinity. now Nicole is going to be a lot stronger because she won't reject the Change. did all the other fledglings die or just five.

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all the red fledglings are closer to Darkness. they had to choose Light in order to overcome the maddness that we saw in the beginning with stevie rae when she was all gross and stuff. i think the anger of seeing rephaim allowed enough Darkness in to influence him and then embrace him.
i don't know how stevie rae is going to explain it. getting everyone to accept it is going to be hard. especially dragon.
he uses the Darkness from his father's blood but since he still has his humanity he hasn't fully embraced it.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:07 pm

Dallas freaked out because of the Darkness that was hovering over the kitchen. Also, if you pay closer attention to certain lines in the books, Stevie Rae talked about how eating people wouldn't be hard for him and he slips up a lot. I can't remember the exact lines, but there all over. One was when he said something about eating homeless people when they were heading back to the depot to kick out Nicole and her gang. So I think since he hasn't fully rejected Darkness, it was easy for it to seep into him and make him go completely crazy. Not to mention if you thought this chick was supposed to be with you then a Raven Mocker shows up and says she belongs to him then you'd feel like you weren't enough for her. And he already felt like he wasn't enough because in the parking lot before getting into Zoey's bug he talked to her about it because he wasn't super strong and he couldn't break the circle to save her and stuff like that, he's already feeling inadequate. So add in this hideous bird guy and then he'll feel really bad, because what's so special about this ugly mutant thing? At least he (Dallas) is normal and Raphaim is a freak of nature. So add all that up and you got Dallas's freak out.

Stevie Rae I think is still close to Darkness, at least closer than the other vamps and fledglings and that's because of how she lost her humanity and what not. She's making sure that she'll never let Darkness influence her like that again. I think she realized how bad she was when she first came back that she never wants to give Darkness another chance so she does whatever she can to choose Light. I think that's another reason why she helped Raphaim in the first place and why she refused to kill the rogue reds and went to talk to them. Because killing them would be giving in to Darkness, which she's making an effort to stay as far away from as she can. I think Dallas was just far enough from Darkness so that he wouldn't be all crazy with bloodlust and what not, but not far enough to where he'd refuse to let it take over if he was pushed enough.
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PostSubject: Re: what the hell was wrong with dallas???   Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:18 pm

Lilith of Night is correct. In Tempted, just after Stevie Rae had closed up the tunnel and sent Rephaim on his way, Dallas found her and told her about how easy it would be to chomp on the nuns. Then in Burned, Dallas's objection to the people being killed in the Lofts was that those people weren't even Street people, implying it would have been fine with him if they had attacked street people. To which Stevie Rae reminded him that no one should be attacked, whether they're homeless or not.
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