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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:19 am

yeah, now that i realised the red tattoos are looking like flowers or such, i think it could be Rephaim, but i cannot understand why he has wings... the feathers in the hair could be a hint to Rephaim, too (but i wouldn't say it's definitely him cause of those feathers). and i guess it could be Kalona cause i didn't expect Rephaim to change so fast.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:54 am

@AmrodAegnor = When Stevie Rae accompanied Aphrodite back to the House of Night in Untamed, Stevie Rae could have easily just stayed in Zoey and her old room. Or even Aphrodite's place where she was staying before. Aphrodite said it would be easier if they only had to deal with Stevie Rae, to which Stevie Rae replied that Aphrodite wasn't the one who got to decide who should be saved and who shouldn't be. Neferet can't read Aphrodite's, Zoey's or Stevie Rae's mind. It would have actually made sense for Stevie Rae to come to Zoey's room and then have Zoey bring Shekinah to her room and explain everything that happened. Maybe that's just me though.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:03 pm

what the heck are you talking about?
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:31 pm

i'm confused, too. on what you are referring to, bella?
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:33 pm

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@Bella-Rose: Agreed with you, except that I doubt SR could have just gone back to the HoN, how, with Neferet pulling the strings and all? And even if she could, it would definitely not be an easy life. And if you think about it, what they built up in the tunnels was kinda neat too, apart from the renegades and dealing with the darkness inside her fledlings, it was an ok place. ^^

I think she referred to this. Better quote what you are responding to, because at first I was confused too. ^^

You're right, she could have hidden there. Didn't think about that. And I also meant she couldn't have gone back and resumed her old life, being with everyone like she was before. But you're right, hiding would have been an alternative.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:18 pm

thanks amrodaegnor
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:14 am

Sorry, didn't mean to confuse people Embarassed

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You're right, she could have hidden there. Didn't think about that. And I also meant she couldn't have gone back and resumed her old life, being with everyone like she was before. But you're right, hiding would have been an alternative.


Stevie Rae will never be able to resume her old life the way it once was, she's changed, she's not the same person, which isn't a bad thing, and also something her friends haven't accepted yet. I mean i know Zoey says that Stevie Rae is different then she was before and that she's cool with it, but clearly she isn't. Zoey also doesn't seem to grasp exactly what kind of pressure and responsibility Stevie Rae has to deal with either. Stevie Rae taking care of her Fledglings comes first, they will literally die without her.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:08 pm

stevie Rae is not the same person. i agree that z doesn't understand any of it.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:13 am

No one who hasn't experienced what it's like to live with Darkness, either externally or internally, would understand.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:48 pm

Though apart from Stark, Zoey should really be closest to understanding it at least a little. I mean, it's not like she has never been Tempted. *cough*

I'm talking about her connection with Kalona and how she was tempted to give in to him and all. It doesn't have to be Darkness itself here, dark thoughts like despair/revenge or in Zoey's case lust, with evil results are more than enough to make people understand the temptation of Darkness. The only difference really is that in Stevie Rae's and the fledglings case it's something they didn't want, an external influence that lurks inside them, while stuff like Revenge and Despair are just something that you have inflicted on yourself (mentally).

Still, Zoey has no right to act as a goody-two-shoes here. She didn't really do anything evil, but she HAS thought about giving in to it.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:12 am

@AmrodAegor = I absolutely agree with you. Kalona said that one of the breeding grounds for Darkness was selfishness, and Zoey is pretty self absorbed. Zoey is no saint and and is no position to judge Stevie Rae, though it's pretty obvious to me that she's going to anyway
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:26 am

I agree with ya, Bella. What really nerves me, was the line in one summary which said "The Raven Mocker refuses to be used against Stevie Rae, but what choice does he have when no one in the entire world, including Zoey, would be okay with their relationship?" - does that mean that Zoey has to allow the relationship or what?? She is really no saint, she should not act like she is one!
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:54 pm

By the sounds of it, Zoey says no. But also that Kalona says no too. I mean i don't think that he would want them to form an actual solid bond of friendship or be lovers, but i would see him attempting to coax information out of Rephaim via his Imprint with her.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:04 pm

I had the same thught, but maybe he was doing it to protect Rephaim. If Niferet has power over like I think she does would he really wont her to have control over his son? But maybe I'm having wishful thinking.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:27 pm

Good question, he definitely would want to protect his son, but with Neferet controlling him, can he actually decide that?

Also, it won't really matter for SR and Rephaim if anyone accepts it, they'll be drawn together anyway. ^^
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:22 pm

i thought about that, too, cause i wondered why Kalona left Rephaim behind... when Rephaim is able to sense Kalona, i'm shure Kalona is able to sense his favourite son, but he didn't ... ok maybe he didn't do, because Neferet didn't want him to search for him, but Kalona didn't think of Rephaim in the whole burned-book. so i expect he just didn't care.

@amrod: ya right, they would Smile
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:35 pm

Well they didn't have a lot of time on him so how would we know what he was thinking about? for all I know he was worrying his pants off.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:20 pm

But whenever we have a chapter from his POV he's simply obessed with Nyx and Zoey, he never spares a thought for Rephaim or any of his children for that matter. Even in dreams with Zoey he never mentions them. Couldn't have been that worried
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:12 pm

that's exactly my point of view. this is the reason why i think Kalona doesn't care what had happen to his son.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:38 am

It's totally wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:07 am

from Kalona or what? i don't understand?
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:12 am

Sorry, i think it's totally wrong that Kalona's pretty much obessed with Nyx/Zoey but doesn't give a crap that he's left his supposed favourite son for dead.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:48 am

Ya right, that's definitely wrong. I wonder why Reph doesn't really thought about that...
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:49 am

Maybe that kind of behaviour is normal. If Rephaim thinks that's how things are supposed to go, he's not going to wonder why.
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PostSubject: Re: What about Dallas?   Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:18 pm

That is why he likes sr she is caring 'bout him and treating him really well. he is just confused at this point.
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